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Naslov: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: zac poslato 09.02.2013. - 21:57
Ovih dana sam remontovao jedan alternator, nije u pitanju Dacijin, ali postupak reparacije je slican za sve modele alternatora.
Alternator je Iskra 55A. Koristi se u vozilima Zastava.
Na alternatoru je radjeno: Kompletno rastavljanje i ciscenje delova, peskiranje aluminijumskih polutki kucista, zamena kolektora na rotoru, zamena lezajeva, kontrola statora i rotora... i na kraju sklapanje.

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Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: miki-bgd poslato 09.02.2013. - 22:26
 :aplause: :aplause:
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: krle poslato 09.02.2013. - 22:31
 :to:
Radio sam ovo  davno  i čini mi se da  su ležajevi 6201 i 6203  (na fotografiji ne mogu videti broj). Ako je regler u ispravnom stanju treba   zameniti četkice.
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: zac poslato 09.02.2013. - 22:33
Krle, lezajevi su 6201 i 6303 , regler je ispravan, a cetkice zamenjene..nisam stavljao sve slike, bilo bi ih jos ovoliko...  :Smiley:

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Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: krle poslato 09.02.2013. - 22:39
Ja jesam u godinama ali bih se kladio da je 6203 a ne 6303. Hajde  stavi naočare i proveri još jednom, inače ću dobro razmisliti 
gde da smestim  ovu temu  :Smiley:
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: Zoran poslato 09.02.2013. - 22:49
Žac, čestitam, pravi si profesionalac  :ziveli:.
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: zac poslato 09.02.2013. - 22:52
Krle, izgleda su godine ipak ucinile svoje...  :Smiley: :Smiley: :Smiley:

Evo ti lezajevi pored kutija... ovaj 6203 je nov a 6201 i 6303 koje sam menjao u alternatoru su polovni, bas skinuti sa alternatora...  pa proceni razliku izmedju 6203 i 6303 :zloca:

P.S.Hvala Miki i Zoki...  :ziveli:

Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: Loganovac poslato 09.02.2013. - 22:58
 :to: Danas si se baš lepo zabavljao...
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: zac poslato 09.02.2013. - 23:20
Hvala ime.  :ziveli:

Krle, proverio sam sad na sajtu ISKRE... do 1995 godine su se ugradjivali lezajevi 6201 i 6203 , a posle tog datuma do remenice se stavlja lezaj 6303. Verovatno si radio alternator proizveden pre `95-te.  :wave:

Cisto da se zna da nam Krle nije izlapetitis...   :Smiley: :Smiley: :Smiley:

Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: krle poslato 09.02.2013. - 23:34
... i da Žac  dobro vidi.  Alternator kojeg sam radio je bio iz  1990.g.

:bliss:


Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: Aleks poslato 10.02.2013. - 10:21
 :hall: :hall: :hall:
Kolektore si pravio ili se mogu kupiti gotovi? Ranije sam sredjivao alternatore na golfu i askoni ali je bilo potrebno samo zameniti lezajeve. Kolektore je trebalo samo blago poravnati na strugu. Cetkice na regleru sam menjao cesce jer sam uvek nabavljao sto mekse. Da ne lupim, ako se dobro secam, sto je vise boja cetkice "vukla" na bakarnu boju to je bila tvrdja.
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: nik poslato 10.02.2013. - 12:00
 :aplause: :aplause: :aplause:
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: Saša poslato 10.02.2013. - 12:04
Vrlo su retka ovako detaljna uputstva na forumima.
Žac, neću te pitati (kao i uvek) da li je alternator radio posle tvog remonta, ali ću ti čestitati na trudu i dobroj nameri da ovo podeliš sa nama.
Živeo!
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: zac poslato 10.02.2013. - 12:28
@Aleks, kolektor sam kupio gotov, u radnji koja prodaje auto elektriku, u cijem je sklopu i servis.

@Sasa, alternator radi, puni 14.4 V.... malopre sam se vratio iz Kilera gde sam ga testirao.
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: roolet poslato 10.02.2013. - 12:37
Svaka cast!!! Ne znam da li bih mogao ovo da se usudim/izvedem, tesko.
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: pjovan poslato 12.02.2013. - 19:00
svaka cast kod nas bi rekli "da ti se pozlatat racete". Tako dobro si ovo opisao da bi i mala beba sama uradila remont na alternator :respect:
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: zac poslato 04.03.2014. - 22:48
Rasturanje se vrsi sa zadnje strane, odviju se 4 zavrtnja M5 (gedora br.8) zatim se rastavi tako da stator ostane na zadnjem aluminijumskom poklopcu zajedno sa diodnom plocom.
Za odvajanje diodne ploce od statora ce vam trebati jaca lemilica (moja je od 150W) zbog velikog alu. hladnjaka koji poprilicno odvodi temp. pa je sa malim lemeilicama namenjinim za elektroniku prosto nemoguce odlemiti. Provera dioda se vrsi kada je diodna ploca rastavljena od statora, po potrebi se zameni (na slici ja sam menjao jednu neispravnu diodu)



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Sledeca radnja je odvrtanje matice na rotoru koja drzi remenicu i ventilator za hladjenje alternatora. Remenicu pazljivo svuci a sa njom i sve podloske koje se nalaze na osovini (raspored zapamtiti da bi se pravilno mogla montirati remenica sa ventilatorom)
Posle skidanja remenice i ventilatora, radapcigerom sa osovine svuci lezaj zajedno sa prednjim poklopcom alternatora!



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Zatim prelazimo na skidanje starog kolektora. Da bi sacuvao zice koje se leme na kolektor, u fabrickoj duzini, praktikujem da odsecanjem, pomocu malog bonseka, jednog malog komada sa kolektora zajedno sa zicom, te onda lako od tog komada razlemim zicu. Posle razlemljvanja obe zice od kolektora potrebno je izmeriti odstojanje samog kolektora od masivnog celicnog dela rotora. To rastojanje je bitno da bi nam novi kolektor legao bas gde treba i da cetkice klize po sredisnjem pojasu na bakarnim stazama.Svlacenje starog kolektora se vrsi malim radapcigerom.
Nov kolektor se nabija na osovinu do mere starog. Nabijanje vrsiti plasticnim cekicem preko starog kolektora!

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Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: hobbista poslato 04.03.2014. - 23:14
Nastavi :)
Naslov: Re: Kompletni remont alternatora (zamena lezajeva i kolektora rotora)
Poruka od: zac poslato 04.03.2014. - 23:16
Posle postavljanja novog kolektora vrsi ze zalemljavanje zica rotora za njega (dve zice, jedna na jednu stazu kolektora, druga na drugu)
Da se, usled centrifugalne sile zice ne bi otkinule, iste se lakiraju spec. lakom za rotor (ja sam koristio obicnu lak farbu) , a moze i kalafonijumom rastopljenim u alkoholu....prem da vise verujem laku.

Dok se lak susi sledi ciscenje aluminijumskih poklopaca (ja ih peskiram staklenim prahom) i statora. Stator i diodnu plocu slobodno perite blagim rastvorom nekog deterdzenta i vodom...ove komponente su inace vodootporne. Posle pranja dobro susenje i montaza. Prvo je potrebno spojiti stator sa diodnom plocom, pa je potrebno provuci tri zice statora kroz zadnji poklopac alternatora, zatim zalemiti diodnu plocu i usrafiti je za poklopac.

Sledi montaza zadnjeg lezaja na rotor, i montaza prednjeg lezaja u prednji poklopac. Rotor nabiti kroz prednji lezaj, montirati ventilator, podloske i remenicu...stegnuti navrtku. Komplet rotor sa poklopcem i remenicom spojiti kroz stator za zadnji poklopac. Zavrnuti zavrtnjeve M5. Montirati regler i alternator je spreman za eksplataciju!

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Ako je upustvo sturo, slobodno pitajte sve sto vas zanima!!!   :wave: